lunedì 1 settembre 2008

Ne abbiamo le tasche piene!

è uno sfogo, ma c'è il suo motivo. credo sia giunto il momento di non lasciare che le cose si sistemino da sole, che si possa essere ancora indifferenti.
Non so voi ma io mi sono stufato di pessimo giornalismo. Almeno si informassero, li avessimo mai visti.

Con mexi abbiamo fatto un post su +blog e invitiamo tutti quelli che qui lavorano, studiano, pensano, vivono, ad aggiungere la propria opinione...

ecco la mia

non so se questo articolo è stato scritto per stiimolare seppure rozzamente una risposta di quanti, professionisti della comunicazione, creativi, architetti, designer, imprenditori lavorano impegnano tempo, denaro, risorse nei mondi immersivi oppure è il risultato di ignoranza, malafede e qualunquismo.

Se è per il primo motivo, devo dire che il bisogno non c'è, dato che siamo tutti vivi e vegeti, e anzi particolarmente attenti a quanto avviene nel mondo dei media del secolo scorso, che per quanto siano in estinzione trovano il modo di causare danni in modo più o meno consapevole, a chi per bestialità scritte su un giornale autorevole da persone in un momento di cattiva digestione, deve ritornare a giustificare, dettagliare a partner, clienti, sponsor il proprio operato e la propria strategia.
Come se ce ne fosse bisogno.
Non bastano i 300 milioni di dollari investiti nel virtuale nei primi due quarter dell'anno 2008 , non bastano i 5 anni di sviluppo costante di una piattaforma che si posiziona in una fascia complicatissima quella degli user over 30 anni, che sono nel metaverso per Produrre e capitalizzare esperienza, basta dare un'occhiata ai dati di Kzero per capire come prototipazione, simulazione, laboratorio trovano negli ambienti immersivi di second life una risorsa a dir poco straordinaria.

Se invece non credete ai numeri contraffatti, credete almeno alla gente, che dal catasto di Cagliari ( non parlerò mai più male degli impiegati del catasto) , agli artisiti che vi operano e che creano nuovi formati , alle istituzioni del made in italy e del design , agli editori ( si! proprio loro!), alle istituzioni.
Non voglio aggiungerne altri, non c'è spazio, sarebbero centinaia.
Tante sono le comunità di pratiche, conosciute altrimenti come community, in questa nicchia ben viva e feconda, di società, di lavoro e di intelligenza.
Ditelo al giornalista della Stampa.
Ditegli che lo stiamo aspettando, ma non come morti avatar, ma come gente molto, molto stanca di sentire stupidaggini: garbage in, garbage out: se entra spazzatura, esce spazzatura.

47 commenti:

silvia ha detto...

Concordo: il pessimo giornalismo dilaga e ancor più diffusi sono i giornalisti superficiali e poco informati che leggono dati e cifre secondo una lente che non risponde alla realtà. Per questo credo che la comunità intellettuale di Second Life si debba fare sentire, unita, a vive voce, raccontando ovunque i propri contenuti. Disponibile a farlo in prima persona asya masala

Marina ha detto...

Mi sembra che le "Voci dall'Oltremondo" si stiano facendo sentire forti e chiare! Un bel coro che gliela canta! :) Grazie Stex :*

arco Rosca ha detto...

comunicazione contro interazione. media art culture trans_formation ?

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bierre ha detto...

Grazie a Silvia per il "pessimo giornalismo", Grazie a Stex Auer per le gentili considerazioni che fa su di me e sulla mia competenza in materia di Second Life (dove bazzico da oltre due anni e mezzo, tanto che sono il primo ad averne scritto su un quotidiano). Però, almeno, lasciatemi avere la mia opinione: come fenomeno culturale e come idea di business, penso che Second Life purtroppo sia solo una promessa non mantenuta. Potrà cambiare, certo, potranno venire idee e iniziative capaci di rilanciarla (o meglio, di lanciarla una volta per tutte). Ma al momento è solo un posto dove si è iscritta tanta gente, ha fatto un giro e poi se n'è andata. Stimo chi ci lavora, mi rendo conto che parecchi ci hanno investito, eppure una cosa è certa: passata la curiosità, dimenticati i (finti?) scandali a base di denaro e pedofilia, di SL rimane poco. Cominciano a capirlo perfino le agenzie di marketing, che non ci tempestano più di comunicati con aziende che debuttano o lanciano eventi balordi. Di questo volevo parlare e questo ho detto, e se qui qualcuno è capace di mostrarmi che mi sbaglio, che l'interfaccia non è lenta e primitiva, che un modello di business vincente esiste, che una riflessione culturale di alto livello o un movimento politico si siano sviluppati partendo da (o dentro) Second Life, sono pronto a discutere e ovviamente a darne conto. Sono molto, molto stanco di sentire proclami e petizioni di principio, per non dire delle offese sparate a caso. Garbage? Vedete voi...

Stex Auer ha detto...

bierre, hai sentito non solo i miei commenti, che sono stati presi ad esempio di una generale stato d'animo, ma ci sono stati tanti altri interventi che in modo più pacato del mio, e più razionale, mostrano quanto questo media , gli ambienti immersivi non SL solo, siano popolati, popolatissimi di gente che è stata considerata morta, e che al contrario produce pensiero "forte", e che ha le idee molto chiare.

Ora, non è compito mio formare l'opinione pubblica, ne fare lezioni di economia, ne insegnare il lavoro a chicchessia: ma avessi visto una fonte, avessi avuto ( da lettore) dati di conforto a quanto affermato, magari la voce di un utente che vivendola spiegasse perchè l'ha abbandonata piuttosto che, e questo è quello che ha fatto più incazzare la gente, avessi chiesto a qualcuno, dato che ci bazzichi molto di dirgli perchè è in un mondo di morti e cosa ci fa.

In più, posso dirlo con una certa sicurezza, nè interfaccie lente, nè scarso modello di business, nè luminose espressioni culturali hanno mai baciato nessum media al suo esordio,nè hanno mai fermato nessuna tecnologia: altrimenti oggi cinema o il web non esisterebbero.

No, bierre, non credo tu ci bazzichi granchè. Almeno non più e da un bel po'. mi spiace, ma dimostri di non sapere. Questo è quello che ha fatto scrivere 47 risposte inacidite al post su +blog e innumerevoli altri e addirittura uno strike sulla sede del tuo giornale in Second Life.

Ti lascio con una citazione e con un invito.
La citazione è da un film di Claude Goretta, un cineasta svizzero, "si le soleil ne revient pas ", se il sole non tornasse più, dove si racconta di uno sciamano-stregone riconosciuto come molto autorevole, che dichiara alla popolazione del suo villaggio l'arrivo della fine del mondo e che il sole non sarebbe più spuntato.
La gente si dispera e accadono cose orrende e sublimi, insomma si dipanano miserie umane e gesti di straordinario ottimismo.
Il sole sorge.
La gente disorientata va dallo sciamano per chiedergli perchè non era accaduta la sua predizione, e lo trovano morto.
Dunque non ha avuto torto, è stata la fine del mondo. Ma del suo. Aveva sbagliato a leggere gli auruspici, un semplice errore di prospettiva.

L'invito è quello di venirci a trovare. A fare due passi tra i morti. Mi offro di farti da Virgilio in questo cammino. Non ti voglio convincere, ma solo farti conoscere un po' di gente. il mio nome, lo sai, aspetto una notecard, credimi con piacere e senza nessuna polemica. stex

Papper Papp ha detto...

Mi diletto di giornalismo SL da più di un anno e lo faccio con soddisfazione.
Anche in questa occasione ho osservato reazioni di chi si è sentito colpito nel duro e serio lavoro che comporta intraprendere un'attività dal carattere pioneristico, quasi fosse una sorta di sfida nei confronti di un nuovo medium. Come ho scritto nel mio commento su "La Stampa", conosco imprenditori, formatori, comunicatori, giornalisti, artisti che operano nel metaverso con passione, dedizione e serietà: i luoghi comuni che ahimè si leggono spesso su SL non fanno certo bene al lavoro di chi cerca di portare avanti un lavoro, sogno, o passione che sia.
Parte della comunità italiana ha reagito, con modalità differenti e forse differenti scopi.
I residenti hanno fatto sentire la loro voce dal "deserto".
La voce si è sentita.
Con tutto il rispetto per l'autore dell'articolo, è mancata, a mio avviso obiettività e documentazione aggiornata. Ma non posso non prendere atto del punto di vista da lui espresso, dato che molti, in passato, abbagliati da prospettive di facile guadagno, siano entrati per poi uscire di volata. Come sostengo da tempo, le cose stanno cambiando; dopo il boom ( pompato da certa stampa ) assistiamo alla stabilizzazione del fenomeno con realtivo calo demografico.
In questo caso, forse, non vale il detto/luogo comune "sono sempre i migliori che se ne vanno".
In medio stat virtus.
Papper Papp

bierre ha detto...

Papper Papp e Stex, vi riporto parte della mia risposta sul sito della Stampa:

Certo, le sviste sono possibili e gli errori si nascondono dietro l'angolo. Ma come commentare i 15 milioni di iscritti e i 466 mila che si sono connessi in una settimana? A nessuno sembra che la sproporzione sia enorme? E nessuno nota che se i residenti crescono (il grafico su carta lo mostrava, ma l'hanno visto gli agguerriti commentatori e i zelanti blogger?), invece le transazioni tra utenti sono scese da 102 milioni di dollari a 84 nel giro di un anno?

Dei segni di disaffezione delle aziende per Second Life La Stampa già scritto un anno fa, nel disinteresse generale di quanti oggi hanno da ridire. E’ un fatto, però, che la sede di Gabetti sia vuota, come è un fatto che ci siano invece quelli che leggono la Stampa nelle edicole virtuali in cui è presente. Segno che la pura presenza non basta, bisogna interagire, incuriosire, innovare, pensare a una strategia che unisca mondo reale e virtuale. Non sono in molti a riuscirci, perché mancano soldi o idee. E se SL finora è una promessa non mantenuta, non è certo per colpa di quei pochi che ci credono, ma di quei tanti che non hanno saputo far altro che replicare vecchie strategie e vecchi luoghi comuni invece di inventarsi qualcosa di nuovo.

Di questo volevo parlare e questo ho detto. Preciso, a evitare malintesi: non dico che si debba abbandonare Second Life, anzi. Si deve – secondo me – continuare a sperimentare, sia perché SL è passibile di miglioramenti, sia perché alcune delle innovazioni che ha portato possono svilupparsi in altri ambiti. I miei amici strikers hanno letto ad esempio l’articolo sul museo virtuale di Ercolano, che a SL deve più di una generica ispirazione?

Parlo da persona delusa, che aveva considerato Second Life fin dall’inizio non come un gioco, ma come una metafora, un’idea filosofia realizzata. Mi sono trovato di fronte, dopo qualche anno, gente che fa finta di ballare. Ho discusso di politica con un sostenitore di Di Pietro e litigato con i seguaci di Le Pen. Lo scorso anno ho perfino trovato uno scoop assai intrigante, di cui si è poi occupato un collega sul giornale. Ma non posso non notare che la bolla di SL si sta sgonfiando, proprio com’è successo con la net economy agli inizi. Oggi, dopo dieci anni, nessuno dubita che sul web si possa guadagnare e che internet sia anche occasione di costruire e diffondere cultura. Succederà anche con SL o con qualcuno dei tanti mondi virtuali che stanno nascendo a immagine e somiglianza di quello dei Linden Labs? Vedremo. Io, intanto, l’ho scritto, che Second Life non morirà.

Di fronte al numero dei commenti, qui e sui vari blog, rispondere a tutti è impossibile, ma sarei contento che il dialogo rimanesse aperto, che chiunque abbia idee o suggerimenti mi scrivesse. Se possibile, evitando gli insulti e le prese di posizione estreme, e cercando di distinguere quello che pensa davvero da quello che gli fanno credere gli altri, che siano La Stampa o i Linden Labs. Intanto, segnalo come lo strike di ieri sia stato uno dei momenti in cui si è registrato il maggior afflusso di avatar davanti alla sede del giornale virtuale. Una ventina, tutti con lo stesso cartello: “Non sono uno Zombi”. Io non ho mai parlato di zombi.

Papper Papp ha detto...

Grazie per la risposta, dettagliata e davvero ( non che ne dubitassi ) cortese.
Laddove lei accenna agli approcci al metaverso non posso che darle ragione quando scrive

"Segno che la pura presenza non basta, bisogna interagire, incuriosire, innovare, pensare a una strategia che unisca mondo reale e virtuale. Non sono in molti a riuscirci, perché mancano soldi o idee. E se SL finora è una promessa non mantenuta, non è certo per colpa di quei pochi che ci credono, ma di quei tanti che non hanno saputo far altro che replicare vecchie strategie e vecchi luoghi comuni invece di inventarsi qualcosa di nuovo".

Allora perchè non andare a vedere che cosa fanno coloro che cercano di interagire secondo le possibilità che quel mondo offre?
Convegni, Simulazioni a scopo didattico, Installazioni artistiche che soltanto lì sarebbero possibili, Concerti ai quali non si potrebbe assistere altrimenti, Musical, Gruppi Religiosi a confronto, Tavole rotonde sulla Pace, Letture, Operazioni architettoniche ...

Incontriamoci in SL e facciamoci un bel giro! Poi parliamone, anzi ri-parliamone.
Lungi da me ergermi a paladina del nulla, ovviamente: non posso non rattristarmi quando vedo avatar che ballano, centri commerciali o quadri ordinatamente appesi ai muri ... per fortuna SL è anche altro, ma comprendo bene il senso di delusione :)
Papper Papp

bierre ha detto...

Papper, diamine, dammi del tu!

Papper Papp ha detto...

LOL

Ok

Papper

Susy Specchi ha detto...

(...)Segno che la pura presenza non basta, bisogna interagire, incuriosire, innovare, pensare a una strategia che unisca mondo reale e virtuale.(...)

E se SL finora è una promessa non mantenuta, non è certo per colpa di quei pochi che ci credono, ma di quei tanti che non hanno saputo far altro che replicare vecchie strategie e vecchi luoghi comuni invece di inventarsi qualcosa di nuovo. (...)

Adesso sono curioso di leggere gli ulteriori commenti.
Davvero molto curioso...

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